I was going to analyze this earlier and ask for your comments, so here goes:
FullTiltPoker Game #4178628035: The Mookie - DDDNasty II (31525513), Table 7 - 15/30 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:04:04 ET - 2007/11/14
Seat 1: NumbBono (2,660)
Seat 2: irongirl01 (3,370)
Seat 3: ScottMc (2,955)
Seat 4: chitwood (2,970)
Seat 5: RumpleTILTZkin (3,000)
Seat 6: JoeSpeaker (3,000)
Seat 7: -o-LuckTruck-o- (3,045)
Seat 8: Kajagugu (3,000)
chitwood posts the small blind of 15
RumpleTILTZkin posts the big blind of 30
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Kajagugu [Ah Kd]
JoeSpeaker folds
-o-LuckTruck-o- raises to 90
Kajagugu has 15 seconds left to act
Kajagugu raises to 210
This is the first level, four minutes into the tourney I think this is the only good thing I did in the hand.
Question 1: Do you flat call here and make it attractive for others to play the hand? Do you raise more?
NumbBono folds
irongirl01 folds
ScottMc folds
chitwood has 15 seconds left to act
chitwood folds
RumpleTILTZkin folds
-o-LuckTruck-o- calls 120
I didn't expect him to fold so I put him on a high pocket pair and perhaps AJs+.
*** FLOP *** [Ks 5s Ts]
-o-LuckTruck-o- has 15 seconds left to act
-o-LuckTruck-o- bets 325
Kajagugu has 15 seconds left to act
Kajagugu calls 325
The pot is 465 so this is a good bet. I have TPTK but this is an ugly flop. I think this is where I made my first mistake by flat calling. I am still in the lead but only slightly.
Question 2: Do you fold, call or raise at this point? If you raise, why and to how much?
*** TURN *** [Ks 5s Ts] [Ad]
-o-LuckTruck-o- has 15 seconds left to act
-o-LuckTruck-o- bets 700
Kajagugu calls 700
Great, now I have two pair, but I could still be way behind a flush. That would really leave me only 4 outs. The pot is 1115 so the 700 is another strong bet. I think this call was another mistake. At this point I am actually a 3-to-1 favorite. But I guess the made flush scared me. I think the right move here is to jam and have him put his tourney at stake.
Question 3: What do you do at this point? Your hand improved but this is getting expensive. Fold? Call? Raise? How much?
*** RIVER *** [Ks 5s Ts Ad] [Qs]
-o-LuckTruck-o- has 15 seconds left to act
-o-LuckTruck-o- bets 700
Kajagugu calls 700
This was the worst part. This is just plain stupid. No need to calculate pot odds or anything. There is no excuse for this call. A 4-flush means I lose to any spade. Why would I even call this? I can only beat a bluff? LuckTruck would not bluff most of his stack on the 4th hand. Pure chip spewage. No question about it.
*** SHOW DOWN ***
-o-LuckTruck-o- shows [As Qc] a flush, Ace high
Kajagugu mucks in disgust
-o-LuckTruck-o- wins the pot (3,915) with a flush, Ace high
Hopefully I won't make these mistakes tonight. Let me know your thought in the comments. Kthxbai.
Thursday, November 15, 2007
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6 comments:
I think the biggest problem is you never gave him a reason to think you were strong. You just kept smooth calling telling him you are weak.
You were right about smooth calling being a mistake. While the flop is scary, you don't test him to find out if he's just doing a continuation bet. If you think raising is too dangerious, then you need to seriously consider folding. More betting rounds to come...now what do you do?
This is probably my biggest leak, calling with a weak hand, believing that my weak hand was better at this moment...only to find out, I was right but theirs improved.
Well the river call was, as you say, pretty indefensible. You have to make up your mind on the turn whether you're ahead or behind, and either 1) re-raise all-in; or 2) fold.
I have to think I'd lean towards the latter. Preserve most of your stack; you could be up against a set, a flopped flush, or a big draw, all of which make this a real coinflip. If you really do think you are ahead on the turn, play strong and try to create some fold equity. As the cards lay, I don't think LuckTruck was going to lay this down once he hit top pair with the flush draw.
Reraise the flop. If he calls, he's got *something*....and based on your preflop read, that something probably includes the ace of spades. He may then check to you on the turn, and you can make it very expensive for him to call. If (after you raised and he called), he then bets out on the turn, you can fold and save chips.
River call was just bad. But you know that.
I agree 100% with pokertart. Re-raise on the flop. You need some information on what he is holding. Flat calling gives you zero info and tells him a lot about your hand.
Congrats on the great run again last night! You get the Main Event seat too. WTG.
The flop is the only place you can stop from losing this hand. Once he hit the Ace on the turn he is not folding. No way. No how. Going broke. Bad River call. When he bet the flop you should have re-raised him big.. If he calls then you are fucked and do not know where you are.. but he *should* fold.
Waffles is of course wrong!
He flops nut flush draw and gutshot he's not going anywhere on flop.
Pre-flop jam and river fold were only two places you could have made a difference in outcome of hand.
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